Ecosystem Podcast

The Bible is complicated, but that doesn’t mean YOU, yes YOU, can’t understand it. The Bible is not complicated like a micro-chip is complicated. It’s not a completely different thing...more

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About the Show

The Bible is complicated, but that doesn’t mean YOU, yes YOU, can’t understand it. The Bible is not complicated like a micro-chip is complicated. It’s not a completely different thing than you are that you need a whole new world of knowledge to even start to learn. It’s complicated like an ecosystem. There’s a lot going on here, but you can live in it. The more time you spend inside it and notice it, the more you understand it.

Meet our Hosts

CJ Ward

CJ Ward

I'm CJ. I hail from southeast North Carolina. As you might expect, that means I'm a big fan of BBQ. My wife Jen (who is originally from Sioux Falls, SD), son Josiah, and I love to do anything outdoors. On a summer weekend you might find us hiking and camping our way through national parks or wading the nearest trout stream. In the fall I spend most of my free time hunting, and all year I spend too much time trying to perfect the cup of coffee. I'm also a big reader - mostly classic fiction, theology, and cowboy novels. I've been a pastor since 2012 and have a bachelor's degree in Youth Ministry from Indiana Wesleyan University and a Master of Arts in Ministry from Wesley Seminary. 

Grant Austin

Grant Austin

Grant was born and raised in Wyoming. He still calls Wyoming home along with his wife and three children.